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Date:	Sat, 25 Oct 2003 12:04:18 PDT7
From:	"J. R. Fox" <jr_fox@pacbell.net >
Reply-To:	scoug-help@scoug.com
To:	scoug-help@scoug.com
Subject:	SCOUG-Help: Re: System files, MBRs, boot managers

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> > . . . *without* trampling all over the LVM partition signatures.

Peter replied:

> Did you ask V Communications if SC is LVM compatible? I'd check first .
> . .

On numerous occasions. Even called them a few times, which they now make
rather difficult. And I know of others who did likewise. They hemmed and
hawwed, said they'd look into it and get back to us, never did. When we persisted,
nothing ever came of it. They shined us on.

> > You are overlooking the BOOT-IT family of products,
>
> I searched for BOOT-IT in Google and got plenty of weird hits but not
> any boot managers. Do you have more info on this so I can find it?

Like I keep telling Steven, 'Google is not ALWAYS your friend.' (That
goes for search engines in general, but try the meta-search site DOGPILE
once in a while.) Check out these:

(older versions)
http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/oldsite/BOOTITL.HTM

(current product)
http://members.shaw.ca/bootitng/

(company site)
http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/examples.html

I forget, but it was probably either BOOTIT or POWERBOOT that claimed
to have a scheme that could give you up to 255 boot partitions ! (Maybe even
255 Primary ones.) If my recollection is correct, that would be an amazing feat
of legerdemain. I remember asking about that on CS, and getting the answer --
from someone like Trevor or Ron _____ (can't recall his last name right now,
but he was in N. Calif., and also at that rarefied Steven-esque level) -- that it
was also a rather *risky* one.

> > one called K-BOOT (shareware, possibly no longer around),
>
> Google couldn't find K-BOOT either. Do you have more info like the
> manufacturer or a url?

That goes back a ways. It used to be mentioned sometimes, along with
PowerBoot, on the old Compuserve OS/2 forums. (I don't recall seeing
your name there on any posts, so maybe not one of your haunts at that time ?)
I would have to dig through a lot of old message logs to find a lead on them,
which I'm willing to do when I can get around to it, if you're really that
curious. As I said, the odds are they are defunct.

> > and a current competitor of SC called OS Selector
> > (from Acronis), recently mentioned by Ray.
>
> Hah! Easily found, didn't even need Google

Easier than that. They are on the shelf at Frys, right next to SC. About 50
bucks, compared to 80 for SC.

> and thanks for making me aware of it. Notably they say they support
> OS/2 (though no mention of LVM). $45 at their online store.

The thanks should go to Ray Davison. I'd never heard of them 'til he mentioned
it. Actually, I scoured the box surface pretty closely, and could find no reference
at all to OS/2 or HPFS. They did mention a bunch of other things they DID
support, so I moved on. LVM ? I doubt it very much. JFS ? Fuhgeddaboutit !

> I should add some columns to my list:

Yes, those sound like significant considerations. In my search of newsgroup messages
on this subject, going back to 1999, I found some disappointed comments about
AIRBOOT, serious limitations regarding many of the others, and a sort of consensus
that SC was apt to be the best choice. They may have been mining this product category
the longest, the most diligently, bringing the most resources to bear on the issues
involved.

Jordan

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