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On 10/25/03, Jordan Fox wrote, in part:  
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>I think it may have been Steve Schiffman (?) who told me   
>it was advisable, when you first hook up a bare SCSI drive,   
>to re-low-level it for the controller that will be driving it,   
>using the controller's built-in utility.  
 
I have received that advice from Adaptec tech-support when   
I could not boot from a previously Unix drive, but could   
read the files on it just fine.  It did solve the problem   
and I've done it conscientiously on EVERY new installation   
ever since. Perhaps it was an Adaptec peculiarity, but it   
seems like a worthwhile precaution when setting up a   
new HD before installing ANY OS.        
 
I then make a bunch of FAT partitions and run Spinrite on   
the partitions for several days (or as long as it takes)   
before committing my data to the drive.  It seems like   
a lot of preparation, but I don't have to do it very often.   
 
True, SpinRite does not recognize HPFS, but then I only use   
SpinRite to verify surface integrity BEFORE the _real_ installation.    
Once HPFS is installed, it's really too late for SpinRite.    
SpinRite is  a really neat tool, and I've bought every   
version since the dawn of time.   
 
>Does any such advisable consideration exist for EIDE / ATA hard drives?    
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>I don't think there is any such built-in utility for the IDE  
>controllers, so you'd need something from the H/D mfr.,   
>or to purchase SPINRITE.     >Jordan  
 
In general, there is no true LL formatting utility for IDE drives.       
In some cases you may be able to obtain a special LL formatting   
utility from the HD manufacturer, but regular LL IDE formatting   
commands do not really perform a LL format, merely a sector   
verify, if they work at all.    
 
  --Steve  
 
 
 
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