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On 3/9/03, Peter Skye wrote, in part:  
 
>> The standard color scheme for 12V DC is  
>> red = positive  
>>  and  
>> black = negative  
>  
>Is this a true standard or did you mean "typical"?  
 
I don't believe there is anything like the National Electrical Code   
(NEC) for AC electrical wiring that requires black and red, but   
it is indeed a standard.  Anyone _could_ deviate from a standard,   
but is most uncommon to do so.   
 
>> Negative ground systems are most common  
>  
>I'm not much of a car mechanic, but didn't they used to ground (to the  
>chassis) the positive side of some cars' electrical systems?  I seem to  
>remember (from 40 years ago) being told never to jumpstart two cars  
>while their bumpers were touching because some cars grounded one side  
>and some grounded the other side and you were likely to make more than  
>just the starters jump.  I know this has no bearing on UPS systems but  
>I'm curious. >- Peter  
 
George Boyd is, of course, right!    
 
It is British cars that had a positive ground while American cars   
have been negative ground since before I was born (~WWII). But I think   
HAD is the operative word here.  I don't think they are still positive   
ground today.  I know someone who owns a modern Jaguar.  I could   
call him (in Sweden) and ask.  ;-)  
 
BTW. the phone company is still positive ground and will be forever.   
That's why their voltage is called  -48V.  There are some very good   
galvanic corrosion reasons (which I don't understand) for this choice.   
It is not-at-all arbitrary or backwards on their part.    
 
 --Steve  
 
 
 
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