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Date:	Sat, 15 Mar 2003 11:38:45 PST8
From:	Peter Skye <pskye@peterskye.com >
Reply-To:	scoug-help@scoug.com
To:	scoug-help@scoug.com
Subject:	SCOUG-Help: OS/2 Mail Clients

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Harry Chris Motin wrote:
>
> . . . OS/2 mail client application.

The three major ones are MR/2 ICE, PMMail and Polarbar
(which is Java-based). All three are highly thought of.

I've been asking about mail clients for years and there's
no consensus (some people still rely on no-longer-supported
mail clients such as Post Road Mailer or, in my own case,
Netscape 2.02).

MR/2 and PMMail cost a few bucks but you can try them for
free (maybe 30 days, I'm not sure). Polarbar is free. All
three have their own mail lists for support.

None of them have message threading like Netscape does, but
if you don't use threading then it's not an issue. All
three have much more robust filtering than Netscape 2.02
does; I don't know about the filtering in newer versions of
Netscape.

The messages are stored differently by different programs,
most notably Netscape which stores all of the messages in a
folder in a single file. There are conversion utilities
which can move the messages from one mail program to another
(but I don't know if these conversion utilities also move
the message flags such as "Not read yet" and "Important").

I *think* that you can link any of these mail clients with
your browser so you can click on an email link in a web page
and bring up the email program, and you can click on a web
link in an email message and open the window in your browser.
But I've never researched this so I'm not sure.

> Right now I can receive E-Mail from [a new DSL] address
> on the Windows machines, but not the OS/2 one

This should be simple to fix -- a lot simpler than getting
a new email program.

See if you can telnet from your OS/2 machine to your ISP's
mail server on both the incoming (POP3) port 110 and the
outgoing (SMTP) port 25. For example, from my machine the
following work:

telnet -p 25 outgoing.verizon.net
telnet -p 110 incoming.verizon.net

("quit" will get you back to a command line.)

I don't know what mail server addresses you're using. Here
is NSLOOKUP on attglobal.net:

[G:\]nslookup
Default Server: vnsc-pri.sys.gtei.net
Address: 4.2.2.1

[G:\]nslookup
> set type=mx
> attglobal.net
Server: vnsc-pri.sys.gtei.net
Address: 4.2.2.1
Non-authoritative answer:
attglobal.net preference = 10, mail exchanger = mx2.prserv.net
attglobal.net preference = 10, mail exchanger = mx1.prserv.net
Authoritative answers can be found from:
attglobal.net nameserver = ns1.us.prserv.net
attglobal.net nameserver = ns3.us.prserv.net
attglobal.net nameserver = ns4.us.prserv.net
mx1.prserv.net internet address = 32.97.166.40
mx2.prserv.net internet address = 32.97.166.40
> exit
[G:\]

Notes:
-- mx1.- and mx2.prserv.net appear to be your server names
for port 25.
-- If a name doesn't work, try the actual dotted decimal
address.
-- If one or both of the telnet attempts don't work, you
might be blocked at your router.

Finally, if your mail connection doesn't work from Netscape,
it ain't gonna work from any other mail client either.
Better fix Netscape first, *then* pick a new email program.

- Peter

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