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Date:	Sat, 12 Apr 2003 09:50:18 PDT
From:	"Info 4 SYNass" <Info@SYNass.NET >
Reply-To:	scoug-help@scoug.com
To:	scoug-help@scoug.com
Subject:	SCOUG-Help: Updating (Migrating) Mozilla, profiles

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Hi Gary
Thanks for your answer.
Your comments indeed does not match my pointings !

I do have 2 very good mailers and am not looking for the slim Mozilla
Mailer =

nor do I look for other puzzles of a fat pack !!

My intention was pointing to Mozillas impossible behavior during its
installations =

respectively RE-installations because of its very poor and weak
installer !!!

In my simple English:
I would call the Mozilla Installer absolutely insufficient and
primitive ;-((

A good installer, IMHO, does ask explicitely where to install the
executables =

and where to install the data (personally and user related) ...
=2E.. to get a proper split i.e for =

x:\EXEC\Mozilla and =

y:\DATA\MyMozilly

=2E.. where X: points to another partition than Y: !

Another import point to a program:
With a program I maintain my data and if the data are maintained badly =

or possible get lost ...
=2E.. the programm also is valueless !!

I do absolutely and very much dislike M$ installation behavior !!!
The M$ freaks have shown no reasonable sense with its customers data ;-(
It's dominant, monopolistic and, like this I find it, very idiotic and
brainless.

I hope my answer isn't rude and harsh ...
=2E.. but I do split system, executables and data explicitely into 3
partitions !!!

Cheers, svobi

gary.wong@sbcglobal.net on 12.04.2003 14:15:54
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Subject: SCOUG-Help: Updating Mozilla, profiles

Svobi:

Take a look at http://www.mozilla.org/roadmap.html; it sounds like they
will create a =

stand-alone mail companion application with a code name of
"Thunderbird". Also the =

default browser component will switch from the XPFE-based (whatever
that means) =

Navigator to the stand-alone Phoenix browser (although the name Phoenix
may be =

changing soon).

I don't know how much (if any) influence Mike Kaply has on this roadmap
document.

On Sat, 12 Apr 2003 03:22:42 PDT, Info 4 SYNass wrote:

>If you are responding to someone asking for help who
>may not be a member of this list, be sure to use the
>REPLY TO ALL feature of your email program.
>
>Hi Ray and everybody
>Your discussion regarding creating or updating the Mozilla profiles is
>very interesting for me ...
>... just now, with updating to V 1.4a, I ran into problems once more
>and again too ;-((
>
>Never in the years of using Netscape I lost my profile data nor
>anything in the User folders !!
>
>So my critics are going to the programmers !!
>They do not think efficiently and practicable as not to say far away
>from reality !?
>Their applications or programs are going bigger and bigger or, better
>said, fat and fatter =

>but more in the direction of a pretty presentation playground than an
>efficient usability
>
>I really cannot understand why not more users do not complain about
>these, =

>Microsoft-like and very stupid ONE-destination installations AND just
>putting exectuables =

>and data into ONE and same destination without asking nor giving a
>chance to choose =

>specific locations in a proper installation process !?!
>
>In my case it would be choosen like following:
>E:\OS2\MOZ\140a for the executables and =

>H:\OS2\MOZ\140a\ISP\User for the DATA (all user relevant data i.e.
>profiles, bookmarks =

>and e-mails)
>
>I do not want to be rude and so I cannot give a firm complaint to Mike
>Kaply and his Mozilla =

>crew for not paying attention of these more user related important
>aspects !
>
>May be, and I do hope so, one or better many of you could do this
>compalints to the =

>Mozilla developer team for reconsidering a much more intelligent and
>user-friendly =

>installation plus also the RE-installation procedure !!!
>
>I believe, not only me alone, would appreciate this better installation
>;-)
>
>Kind regards, =

>svobi
> =

>
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>raydav@charter.net on 12.04.2003 06:53:27
>Please respond to scoug-help@scoug.com
>To: scoug-help@scoug.com
>cc: =

>Subject: SCOUG-Help: Updating Mozilla, profiles
>
>Regarding Mozilla profiles, I assume the concern is email. I have
been =

>using Mozilla for email exclusively for about a month. It has taken
me =

>about a year to get it to work. I have NEVER gotten a profile
>converted =

>from NS 4.61 to work completely. Hence, my advise, don't try. Create
>a =

>new profile and copy the email files from NS, that works fine, don't
>try =

>to copy them back.
>
>How to get the directory structure you want:
>Go to an HPFS partition X, NOT the boot partition.
>Create MOZPROFILES and MOZTEMP, both off the root.
>Put mozilla-os2.exe (install program) in MOZTEMP.
>Add; "SET MOZILLA_HOME=3DX:\MOZPROFILES" to config.sys.
>Boot.
>Go to MOZTEMP and run mozilla-os2.exe. It will offer to install into =

>X:\MOZILLA. Say yes. During install select a profile name; MYPROFILE.
> =

>A subdirectory MYPROFILE will be created several layers below =

>MOZPROFILES. MYPROFILE will have MAIL, NEWS and CACHE subdirectorys.
>If Mozilla is running, exit.
>Delete X:\MOZILLA, yes I know you just created it.
>Move MYPROFILE to wherever you want it, say X:\MOZPROFILE\MYPROFILE.
>Leave MAIL, NEWS and CACHE in MYPROFILE or make copies of them
>somewhere =

>else - on HPFS. Only delete the originals after you get the new =

>locations to work.
>Go to X:\MOZTEMP and run mozilla-os2.exe. Install will find =

>X:\MOZPROFILES\MYPROFILE and use it. You now have your profiles where =

>you want them.
>Edit prefs.js to point to your new MAIL, NEWS and CACHE locations. =

>When =

>you get that working delete the originals.
>
>When a new mozilla is released, put it in X:\MOZTEMP, delete
>X:\MOZILLA, =

>goto X:\MOZTEMP, run mozilla-os2.exe.
>
>If mozilla install does not create a folder and objects on the desktop =

>run mozfold.cmd. You can create them yourself but this does a very
>nice =

>job. I then move the folder off the desktop to connections.
>
>Ray

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