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Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 13:54:29 PDT
From: "Gary Granat" <ggranat@earthlink.net >
Reply-To: scoug-help@scoug.com
To: < "scoug-help@scoug.com" > scoug-help@scoug.com >
Subject: SCOUG-Help: TRAP0003

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On Thu, 24 Aug 2000 11:46:59 PDT, Steven Levine wrote:

>>the answer is that a restore procedure is not in place. I recognize this
>>as a deficiency, but haven't solved the logistics, to date.
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>I did a Mr. KIA write up on this in March, 1999.

I'll go look in up immediately! I apparently missed it, or it didn't sink in.

>I expect the source of the problem to be a hardware configuration change.
>However, when troubleshooting problems like this that have no "apparent"
>cause, I try to stay open of other possibilities and prune the suspects by
>testing.

OK. At least, we're on the same wavelength. See following...

>Back you "what changed". The resource manager is a "hardware" thing.
>It's failing because your hardware appears different in a way it can't
>handle. Something changed where you expected no change. I don't know why
>an Alt-F1 reboot with full hardware detection does not fix it, but it
>doesn't.

OK. Maybe I'm dense, but how would one induce "full hardware detection" under
these circumstances? You mentioned that, but I guess it got lost in the noise
between the ears.

>With a laptop, you don't neccessarily have to physically change hardware
>for this to happen. The hardware is highly configurable through the BIOS
>and through the Thinkpad setup utilities. Perhaps you went into Thinkpad
>Configuration and inadvertently enabled a device or changed an IRQ.

I wish it were that simple. I haven't been in to the configuration program for
several months. But, it does raise the interesting thought that when I did the
/F:3 CHKDSK, an old "configuration file" (or whatever the configuration program
uses) got written in place of the current one. Possible?

>Perhaps you went into the NT Device Manager and changed something there
>that filtered down into the BIOS settings.

I have NT on the system in the -- recently -- vain hope that it gives me a
talking point when some work comes my way, which is seldom. I booted NT for
the first time in nearly five months about ten days ago to run a WIN32 program
my sister sent me. I don't think I have been in the NT Device Manager since
last August or September. In fact, I've been seriously considering scratching
the NT partition because I could the the 1.6GB of space more productively under
OS/2. But, it is still there. And, NT still boots. I would think that if
there was a serious change, it wouldn't boot and I would have to use a hardware
restore to get it to work.

>Do you recall doing anything like this recently. Even if you didn't, it
>might be a good idea to bring up the Thinkpad configuration utility under
>NT or from a floppy boot and review all the settings.

OK. Here is the information from the NT ThinkPad Configuration Utility:

IBM EtherJet PC Card:
IRQ 15
Port 0x300

LPT1
Bidirectional
IRQ 7
DMA3

PCI Device Setup
IRQ 11

Audio/Alarm
Full Duplex
IRQ 5
1st DMA DMA1
2ndDMA DMA0

These values are, as nearly as I can recall, the same as the ones I set up for
the Warp installation. Incidentally, the NT system shows all the shared
devices on my DFI system, so I know that networking is running just fine. I
don't know much about how the ThinkPad Configuration program works. I presume
it is reporting values from actual hardware settings. Does it record these
somewhere, and if so, does it make a comparison?

>I know this is frustrating, but it's not a problem I have seen before.
>There have been a couple of trap 3 reports lately, but they are all
>specific to FP14 and that's not you.

That is one of the reasons I've been waiting for FP14 to stabilize. I figure
in another couple of months -- with the latest fixes to the fixes -- I might be
ready to try it. OTOH, FP12 is working just fine for me, so I don't feel
compelled to change, just yet.

>I'm not even saying you changed anything yourself. Sometimes, stuff
>happens. We'll just have to keep at it until it's fixed.

It is sounding more and more like this is a hardware issue; given that, I'm
beginning to wonder whether an OS/2 reinstall would fix things.

>Since the REM exercise fixed nothing, you might as well restore the
>orginal.

My thoughts exactly.

--gary
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